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Confused3000
12-22-2004, 08:40 AM
I have been seeing a married woman for almost a year now. She is in a bad marriage where her husband is verbally, emotionally, and physically abusive. She has a 5 year old and a 1 year old. The 5 year old is both of theirs however the baby is the result of an affair on my gf’s account.
The marriage has always been shaky from my understanding. He has hit her in the past and as a result she has had a number of affairs. She feels guilty about the affairs and feels that she is at fault even though he has been abusive to her which I think drive her to these affairs. The marriage was bad and he would not give her another child. She left him for a while where she had gotten pregnant by a other man which is not in the picture.
Her husband accepted her back and signed the birth certificate accepting the baby as his own. However while he had at first helped her out and improved on their marital and relationship problems, as usual things have reverted back to the way they were.
He is abusive to both her and the children in my eyes. He controls all the money. Allows her an allotted amount to go grocery shopping with either him, his mom, or his sister. This is the only time she get’s out of the house and has to take the kids with her almost every time or at least one of the kids. He denies her medical treatment even though he has insurance and the kids treatment. While she has went once, she had to fight for it and was finally able to go in when symptoms got pretty bad and she made an appointment without his approval. They had not found the problem but her trying to fight him to get more tests done is a hassle, she would rather just not go through that hassle.
He is the type of person that will skimp on what he can to save money for himself such as going to the local ice cream stand and buying for him and her but not their child. His general response is that she don’t need it and or it’s too expensive. So mean while they will leave with them both having something while she is in the back seat with nothing. This is apparently a common thing, however she is planning on making a stance next time this happens.
About a year ago, I have met her online in which we really connected. She informed me that she was married and such. Told me everything that happens and was really interested in me. I was really interested in her as well. At first I tried to stay just friends and help her with her marriage. However the marriage was already falling apart to far. I had told her that. I don’t want to get involved in a relationship unless she was absolutely sure about it and what was happening with her relationship. I had stressed this very heavily to her.
We ended up developing a relationship very quickly. We both felt something special and have been together since. I have been seeing her about once a month after about 3-4 months into the relationship. We had also managed to sneak a week and a half trip together to a friend of hers in a other state. We felt it was important to get to know each other better and our compatibility before we continued or made any serious decisions about our relationship. This trip went very well, so well that in fact I decided it was time for her to meat my parents for a few days before taking her home. That went over very well as well.
Meanwhile, we continued our relationship which has been stressed and tested to the max. As you can imagine, there is a lot of stress involved which has caused a number of fights which we have always bounced back from. Generally it seems that the fault is on her side due to her stress levels from at home. But I am not perfect and have been at fault on occasion as well, just not very frequently. And no, I’m not trying to be conceded as it may sound.
During our year together, she has not been intiment with her husband however has been with me. However she is currently away with him at a expensive hotel room and it is driving me nuts.
When we first got together, I told her to keep doing whatever she was doing. However, their was no ualness going on between them. However recently he has been trying very hard with attempting to have his way with her one night when she woke up with him down below.
However this hotel situation is bothering me. Because she was very upset with what happened that one night and felt like she cheated on me. Even though she prevented anything from happening once she woken up and realized what was going on and it wasn’t me. But this hotel situations seems different. He is not spending much money on the kids for xmas but decided to get this sweet. He had tried getting with her the night before but she told him no and told him that if that’s why he’s getting this $128 room, then he midis well not get it. He apparently got mad and left for the evening shortly after.
She seems to be kinda excited about this hotel room but tells me she doesn’t want to do anything but may to keep him off her back. It scares me because the way she is reacting about it doesn’t seem to corrugate with the event about waking up when he was going down on her. Her reaction seems different. He has already threaten divorce and everything else he can think of. He has basically told her he can because he’s her husband. While one of the reasons for this room his supposedly to do x-mas shopping, I know the whole intent is to get her in bed with him.
She claims not to want to do this and was in a bad mood about t this morning, and saids she will try not to. I am very concerned on exactly how hard is she gonna try. I know what I said before, but that was before I know she had cut him off and she had been faithful to me until now. I don’t know what to think of this whole situation. Should I be mad or upset? Should I be mad or upset at her or him? Or how I should be feeling. I feel partially berated and hurt. I feel that the one I love is being violated. I feel powerless on not being able to stop it or prevent it. I’m very confused on my emotions right now about this whole situation. Am I wrong for feeling this rage towards him about this? And I wrong for feeling hurt by my gf probably having with him? I don’t know, I’m very confused, scared, hurt, upset, and restless. I love her but I feel like this is putting our love on the line. Should I not be feeling this way? Should I just tell her I don’t want to know what happened and just want to look to the future and hope this doesn’t happen again? What should I do? What would you do? I was very happy aside from some of the fighting with her and wanting to work on getting together and marriage and such. I’m so confused, please help.

CalistaClap
12-22-2004, 01:40 PM
Truthfully, she is still married to him, and still living with him. She is not cheating by sleeping with her husband, she is cheating on him by sleeping with you.
Sorry to be so blunt, but thats the facts. Her relationship with her husband is not wrong, her relationship with you is wrong. If she doesn't want to be with him, and wants to be with you, then she should leave him. THat's the only way to make it right.

Although he doesn't sound like a very good guy, she is still there for a reason. Do you know why she is staying? Has she told you why?

Have you guys planned on her leaving him for you? Or are you content just being the man on the side?

I"m not trying to be rude here, but it seems as if she is content keeping you hanging around with no intention of leaving her husband.

Is this something that you can be happy with?

eightball61
12-22-2004, 02:22 PM
He is clearly not a good guy as seen here. She is still married with the guy and with her being with you is not making anything better. To me its actually making things worse.

The reason why is I think if she wants to leave him then she should but she should have the space to do so. This guy will be upset if he finds out she has been cheating on him and that can put you at risk. I think you outta really talk to her and back off until she can make her right decision.

Confused3000
12-22-2004, 02:43 PM
Yes, she’s still married to him and living with him. But this is because she is stuck their until I can afford to move her out and so forth.
He kind of has her basically trapped. Her mother lives in a other state whom is a crossed the country. But from my understanding, that is not a very good situation either. He has pretty much eliminated her friends so she doesn’t have any friends to go to. He made sure that she doesn’t have a drivers license or ID. He won’t take her up to get one. As weird as that sound, to the best of my knowledge, it’s pretty true as we were working on getting her ID at one time. She basically has to rely on him or his family for transportation so getting it is kind of next to impossible unless I were to take her. But that’s where we run into a problem with the kids. It probably wouldn’t be a good idea to have her daughter come into contact with me yet. He has made sure that he has trapped her. Unless she wan’t to risk loosing the kids, she can’t leave anywhere.
I am planning on working enough income to be able to afford a place for us and a attorney. I’m sure theirs going to be a custody battle along with any alimony and child support. He seems to think that if they get a divorce for what ever reason, that he doesn’t have to give her anything and he’s done enough for her. Yet he won’t let her work or earn any income. So basically it come’s down to when I can afford to get a place with her and then hire a good divorce attorney. Plus I want to make sure I can hire a consoler. I’m sure we will all need it to get through this, especially her daughter.
I absolutely hate seeing her in the situation that she’s in. No one’s happy, and her daughter is acting out because of the abuse. I know that divorce is hard on kid’s, but from what I see, it would be worse to keep her in the situation she’s in.
But yes, she’s planning on leaving him for me. We don’t want it to be just some affair or fling. We do want to get married.

Confused3000
12-22-2004, 02:49 PM
Also, I understand she is cheating on him with me. But why does this recent event feel like the opposite?

I’m also generally not the type to condone divorce or infidelity in a marriage, but I also don’t condone abuse. And she’s such a sweet girl that doesn’t deserve it. We fell madly in love with one another, and I feel little regret for what’s going on. Every time I seem to start feeling bad or like maybe we maybe doing something wrong, her husband always seems to do something horrible which then I don’t feel any regret.
Shouldn’t I be feeling like I’m doing something wrong here or have some regret? I mean one side I feel like I’m destroying a marriage but then when I stand back and look at it, am I really destroying something? The marriage has fell apart long ago, they have tried numerous times to repair it, or should I say she has. But things just revert back to the bad side of it.
Should I be feeling like I’m doing something wrong here? I’m normally a pretty morel person with a strong sense of good ethics. And this goes against a lot of what I believe in. But I do not feel ashamed, or like I’m doing any wrong, or any remorse (I think that’s the word I’m looking for). Is something wrong with me?

eightball61
12-22-2004, 03:18 PM
Is something wrong with me?


Nothing is wrong with you but what you are doing is wrong. You need to take a step back. I know she is sweet but she is still married and she needs to figure out what she wants. If she is interested she will understand.

CalistaClap
12-22-2004, 03:45 PM
I understand that he may "controll' her while she is there, but she has 2 feet, and a brain and if she really wanted to could leave. People do it all the time. She doesn't need a man to support her.

No one HAS to stay in abusive relationships. She may not have a lisence, but she could move in town, get an apartment, and get a job within walking distance. Earn her own money, and pay her own rent. She could take her daughter with her.

Their may be custody battles, but I"m not sure if it is just where I am from, or all over, but courts usually don't take children away from their mother. Especially where abuse is concerned on the father half.

There are also places and services to help people like her so they don't HAVE to stay with abusive spouses. Women's shelters, Social Assistance, Low income housing, etc.

It's just made out that she is a zombie who does nothing other than what her controlling husband allows. Reality is, she DOES NOT have to agree with it. Society incourages people to leave abuse, not stay with it. There is help out there for her.

Also, I do not think that it is a good idea for her to leave him for you. That is something that he could use against her if ever going through a court case. It's a smart idea for her to leave him, and be on her own for a bit. Then if you two feel like progressing it a bit, great.

Are you sure that she does want to leave him, and isn't just telling you that to keep you around? After almost a year I would really start to wonder.

eightball61
12-22-2004, 05:26 PM
I understand that he may "controll' her while she is there, but she has 2 feet, and a brain and if she really wanted to could leave. People do it all the time. She doesn't need a man to support her.

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Listen to Calista here because this is all true but she is the one that has to do it. You can't do it for her and she will have to make that choice and just use you as the fling or get out of the marriage.

All she is doing is making things worse by staying. She is cheating and also facing more potential abuse. To help make it easier then step back and allow her to be a big girl to make this decision on her own. This is all confusing her and you at the same time. You can keep this relationship up but will will all come around and may turn for the bad. Think about her and let her figure it out.