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rcaco
02-18-2005, 11:17 PM
I’m in quite the dilemma here. My girlfriend and I were basically forced to move out; her being 19, me being 20. We’ve been dating for four years and she has been quite the clean person: keeping a clean room, getting mad when I left my jacket on the floor in her room, etc. But since we’ve moved out, it’s like a whole new person I’m seeing.

We moved into a 580sq foot apartment, but before we moved in, we made a mutual decision before we moved of what we were going to do regarding every aspect of living together. This was to iron out any problems and to have a game plan. Her part of this was to clean the apartment, which she gladly wanted to do and said she’d do it once a week. My big job was to handle the finances: deposit pay, pay bills, pay our credit cards, loans, investments, etc. They may not seem comparable, but they are equally time consuming and stressful. The minor cleaning, ie dishes, emptying garbage was deamed mutual work.

Tonight she had her little brother over, as I was cooking dinner (which I’m always the one to cook) and I was just making a joke that women should be responsible for all the cooking and cleaning (which I do not agree with, but was just kidding). Her brother turned around and said, “But you do all the cooking and cleaning around here, so are you a woman.” That’s when I got quite mad, because it is true -- I do all the cleaning. Now either he noticed this, having only come over four times, or she tells him this.

It’s been about a month now, and she has cleaned only once. And let’s just say the effort was way below par. She cleaned the kitchen, and only the kitchen. First all the crumbs from the counter ended up on the floor. Then she took the “Swifter,” which you must pick everything off the floor before using since it only polishes the floor, and she cleaned the floor with it. This left crumbs all over the place, but did give us a shiny floor. Job complete in her mind.

I’m always left to do all the cleaning (I mean all of it – the bathroom, scrubbing the floors, cleaning the toilets). I always clean all the dishes because she’ll just leave them in the sink until we run out – then she’ll wash them (that’s only if I hadn’t yet). I don’t mind cleaning dishes, as they are mine as well. Tonight for example, I made a big dinner for her, her brother, and myself. After she and her brother finish, she rinses their plates off, leaves it in the sink and puts her coat on. They were headed to the club house to play pool, while I’m left with a kitchen full of dirty pots and pans on the stove and food all over. The least I expected her to do was to say “do you need any help,” but no she left saying it was ludicrous to clean right away.

I always clean the bathroom. Some how she doesn’t notice the dust or her leg hairs that cover the tub when she shaves. She doesn’t notice the garbage can is overfilling. She doesn’t seem to notice the mirror is covered with makeup that missed her face.

I tell her about these things and she still doesn’t care. I tell her that we made an agreement and she must pull her weight around here. There are more things she doesn’t clean, but I just want to make it short. I don’t expect her to do it all. I will change the bag if the can is over flowing, I will wipe the floor if I notice something spilled on it, etc. I don’t expect her to do things like that just being she has the cleaning job. What bothers me is that she doesn’t do the actual cleaning, ie the floors, the toilet.

One of her favorite excuses is that she doesn’t have time. She goes to school from 10-3 everyday and works 15 hours max a week. Whereas I’m at school 8-5 daily, work 30 hours a week, and have to take care of anything and everything related to living and keeping this apartment up to par. But yet she is able to always hang at the clubhouse with friends, but some how none of this clicks that she has plenty of time to do this compared to me.

Any help would be great. I don’t want this to begin to hurt our relationship and I especially don’t want a wife who can’t do these minimal tasks in the future.

eightball61
02-19-2005, 01:49 PM
Try making a to-do list. Have this posted somewhere's where you both can marked down what has been done with your initials. You both shouldsplit it 50/50 and rotate the shift every week so you are not stuck doing the same thing every week. This will allow her to get more responsible on doing things on her half and better organized. Once you are done your chores then you stop for the week and she will have to do her half. What you are trying to do here is make it equal and gain responsibility at the same time.

rcaco
02-19-2005, 02:33 PM
Thanks, I was thinking of doing that and she laughed at the idea. Others gave me some ideas as well so I'm going to try and implement these all sometime in the near future.

eightball61
02-19-2005, 04:08 PM
You know she may have laughed at the idea but she has to compromise with you and help you out to make things work. What is happening here is not making things work. There are many options to go about with this but this to me would be the best idea to explore and see if it works. Its going to teach responsibility and organization. She has to manage time much better.

We are all adults here and she has to put her foot in. This is life and its not a free walk. Taking a free walk on make things harder in the llong run. She has you to clean when its not done and she relies on you to pick up the slack. If she has the responsibility to do something and knows it won't get done unless she does it then she will do it.

opti3
03-07-2005, 06:24 PM
Well, I can tell you that I was in the same exact situation. Except I was her. I moved in with my boyfriend and I cleaned, but it was a half assed job. I was going to school full time and working at least 40 hours a week, but it wasn't a time thing. I was flat out lazy. We live in a pretty big house, 3500 sq ft. It was just too much, and once I would "sort of" clean it, it needed to be cleaned again. Well, I have been with my boyfriend for 3 years now, and all it took was for him to say shape up or ship out. That not wanting to clean had more behind it than just cleaning. He pointed out a lot of things including my motivation level. He pays the bills too and works around 60-70 hours a week. So he really didn't have time to clean. I love him more than anything. I realized that I was being selfish and causing a problem in our relationship. So I shaped up. He does his part, pay bills and cooking (I am horrible in the kitchen). I clean and do the laundry. We are remodeling right now and I always help him with that stuff. As far as cooking I ALWAYS offer to help him, even if it is just cutting vegetables. So, maybe you just need to put it right out on the table, that you think her motivation level is really low and she really needs to pick it up. I think that if she cares about you and your relationship, she will see it and figure it out. I know I did. Do me a favor though. One thing my boyfriend doesn't do for me, is thank me or do nice things for me in return. It might make things better if you both are thankful for the things that each other do. Unfortunately in my situation, I think I give out 80% and he gives in 20%. Tell her how things need to change, but don't let her feel like she has put in to be your maid with "benefits", I know what that feels like and it sucks. But I do think you need to put your foot down, just make sure you do it gently.

eightball61
03-07-2005, 06:33 PM
One thing my boyfriend doesn't do for me, is thank me or do nice things for me in return.


In many ways you do have a keeper but as you see here we are not all perfect. If your boyfriend was able to point out all your flaws and that helped you to change then maybe you should try the same. If you want to be thank then dont turn it into an effort but just comfront him about it like he did to you. Let him know how you feel. Those words "Thank You" may seem minor but mean a lot to the person that wants to recieve it.

Diablo
04-14-2005, 02:26 AM
I agree with opti3. Right now it sounds like she's just using your place for a home base. She eats and then hits the door to hang out at the clubhouse. She's thinking that there's no reason why she should clean since you'll do it. You need to put your foot down yesterday.