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beesting
02-23-2005, 11:11 AM
I am here of course, probably, in similar situations as everyone else who joins this forum... I'm trying to heal a broken heart...

My story is kinda long since it lasted almost 6 years. I met him in my last semester from college (February 1998). From the beginning, he and I were very good friends. I've known his family for years, but he and I never crossed paths. About a month after he and I met online, he asked me for my phone number... just as friends, nothing more. I refused, of course because I didn't know him well enough to see if I could trust him not to be a serial killer or stalker. I asked for his instead. It was a Friday evening, and he was initially sleeping the first time I called. I waited a couple of hours and called him back, with the intention that if he doesn't pick up, I will never call him back. Unfortunately, his sister made him pick up because she felt bad that I had called twice already (darn her!). Anyway, that first day we talked... We talked from 9PM to 4:30 AM... non-stop. I teased him about guarding his heart against me because I have a habit of guy-friends falling in love with me... hehehe... I never thought he would take it seriously because around my birthday (may 1998) I found out he has fallen... HARD, from my understanding... He was 19... I was 25... Yeah what a mismatch. I tried to scare him away, tried every trick up my sleeve to try and push him away or turn him off... It didn't work... He and I continued to or at least struggle to try and continue being friends but his feelings grew stronger for me... I had a huge crush with someone else at that time, a crush that has been ongoing for about 2 years prior (1996). I'm a late bloomer you see... I was afraid of getting hurt so I always manage to keep my feelings hidden. Then one day I found myself constantly thinking and worrying about my guy (my ex). I found I could not easily ignore him anymore. I began to entertain ideas about being a couple. At that time, his feelings were so real, or I thought they felt so real that I was swept up by it. After a year and a couple of months of friendship, I decided to have a go at a relationship with him. He was 20 and I was 26. He was my first relationship ever! My first Kiss... first date... first everything but there was no consumation of the relationship all this time... I sometimes blamed that part of the relationship for it's failure. I am a practicing Catholic and so was he. We respected eachother enough to try and hold off. It was rocky in the beginning because like all couples, we had baggage that we both brought into the relationship. I had elderly parents whom I was the primary caretaker for (mom-70s, dad- 80s), newly grad nurse (boards, new working relationship- from nursing assistant to RN), new position as a girl friend (I didn't know one thing about being a grilfriend). I didn't even know how to say "I Love You" to the oposite . On his part, after the first couple of years, he was adjusting with college life and having me as a GF. Unfortunately, his father died in March of 2001. He then had to drop out of school and help pay for the bills. His mom barely makes 30k per yr. he worked at the airport by this time, PT. Luckily, his managers knew about his situation and let him have a FT position. It was in our third year together ( a little after his father died) that things seemed to finally settle between the 2 of us. I remember making a comment about how we were no longer fighting or arguing as much. Arguments in the beginning stemmed from his jealousies and insecurities to my being unreasonable and we were not seeing things eye to eye ( maturity levels). I should have bailed out then. But since the 3rd year was showing signs of improviing, we kept pushing. After his father's death, I decided to take on PT position as a nurse, mainly so I can spend more time with him, care for my parents at home and be there for him because of his loss. I think the main reason why it was going so well was because we did make more time for eachother. He used to take me to his job, when the airport wasn't so chaotic, before 9/11 and I would wait for him and have lunch with him during his breaks. At this time, he had dropped out of school. He knew he wanted to finish something, so we discussed other possibilities... I encouraged him to attend the local community college and take classes while he was trying to find out what he really wanted to do. At this time he also had 2 other sisters who were enterring college as well. Without a father, it was hard for them. It was on our 3rd year together that we began to discuss more about marriage. I was scared. I told him that we needed more time and that he cannot just get married now, when his family needs him most. So I told him to concentrate on what he needed to do at that time. In August of 2002, he proposed to me. I said yes, but on the condition that he finish school first and get stable. He wanted to marry in the fall of 2003. I refused. I pushed for a 2006 wedding, but he did not like that idea. So we both settled for a 2005 wedding. It would have been this April. Anyway, he finally finished at the top of his class with an associates degree in construction technology. He now works as a city employee. Me, on the other hand, had left the hospital ( for back-related problems) and took on a desk job for a prestigious pharmaceutical company... It was a drastic change as well as pay cut... When we gopt engaged, our problems started again... I began to blame the reason behind his busy schedule as well as mine. On and off we broke up but not to the point that we wouldn't talk to eachtother. It would last a day and we would be back together again. Then it became worse as the wedding date got closer. Last year around this time, I found out that he was having second thoughts... I didn't find out about it until just before we broke off our engagement, which was back in August. I began to notice that most of our fights would involve just me trying to be with him all the time. I became a nagger to that extent that it got to his last nerves. But all I wanted was to be with him still! Even to the last day. When we broke up in August (at this time we had booked the church, reception place, photographers, priest and I had my dress), I thought I would never see him again. A couple of months later, he and I began to talk again and hanging out, but we were both hurting from the break up that we both decided to try and take things one day at a time. We tried to be just friends... but the feelings were still strong. Finally, a few days after Christmas, I found out he was talking alot with another woman from MD area that I was so hurt by it that I decided to completely drop out of the picture. I confronted him about it and all he told me was that he was talking to her as a friend and seeking some advice... Of course I believed him, but at the same time, I noticed a change in his demeanor, like he knew that it was really over between us... and this is where I am right now... still pining away and still wishing for something that seems out reach right now... Deep down in my heart, I know he has developed some feelings for this woman. IT HURTS! I thought he and I would always be together. I guess we both hurt eachother beyond that point.... I am wishing for a happy ending... but I don't believe that happy ending would include him this time and it breaks my heart a million times over to accept this. It has been 6 weeks and 3 days since we last spoke. I sent him a Valentine's prayer about unconditional love, he never responded. Although the very next day, I saw him online for the first time, showing himself on YAHOO IM. He normally limits his internet appearance to AOL. It was in YAHOO where we first met. I did not say hi to him. I WISH I HAD... I WISH I COULD HAVE HIM BACK AGAIN>>> I WISH!

But I know I have to move on since he seems to have moved on. How can he have loved me so much but yet be able to be with another woman in so short a time????

eightball61
02-24-2005, 01:18 PM
But I know I have to move on since he seems to have moved on. How can he have loved me so much but yet be able to be with another woman in so short a time????


This is a very good question here: I have often seen in relationships that one person at least gets hurt more than the other during a breakup. We all have different recovery rates and yours is a tad slower than his. You are still not recovered because your thoughts have not accepted the reality of the breakup yet. I mean you did finally give this man your heart but he figured that you were not the one. This left you hanging in the dust with the feelings still strong.

People that are able to move on faster always doesn't mean that they didn't care for you. SOme people move on for a rebound or just dont want to be stuck in the rut for ages so they look for a new partner. Your behavior of not ready to move on yet is normal. Don't allow this breakup though continue your fears on getting hurt again in the future. I have been hurt 2 other times before I found my current match. I didn't give up at all because I accept that this was life and it takes some wrongs before you get that right one.

beesting
02-24-2005, 03:44 PM
That's just it! Recovery time... When love hurts, there's that period of grief before one can move on. Losing out on love is almost like losing a loved one in death... When the grieving process is skipped, how can one move on truly? If the person is still within your heart because you skipped the grieving period, why use another person to try to replace the one you just lost???? If it doesn't work out, then this other person will also get hurt... It's unfair to him as well as the other person... Of course there could be a chance that the relationship will work out, but how many rebound relationships do work out???? Is the first love ever forgotten 100%? How can you give your love again 100% when you had already done that with your first relationship? Is there such a thing as giving 100%???? Does the rebound ever question their loves true feelings to see how real it is????

In my situation, the girl used to have a fiance. She broke up with him because she knew that he was not the one... My ex told me a little background about her... Not much though. But I know she is 30 and a nurse like me... Is that saying something????

eightball61
02-24-2005, 04:03 PM
In my situation, the girl used to have a fiance. She broke up with him because she knew that he was not the one... My ex told me a little background about her... Not much though. But I know she is 30 and a nurse like me... Is that saying something????

Oh stop the comparing you :p I know its hard and you want to know more but what people dont realize is when they know more about things then they end up hurting more. He has now moved on and is with someone else. I dont doubt you still have a spot in his heart but he wants to share something with someone else.

As for you though its time to move on/recover. Some helpful ways is try to things about ways you want to move on like why you want to, what things you want to do, or what you may want to accomplish. Holding back and think "why this" or "why that" is not helping you to move on. I mean you gave this guy your everything and the breakup set you back in a trance and you are now somewhat lost. Your mind will work itself out to be in the right direction. Some take longer than others and some have to seek counseling for help...Just give it time and see where things go.

Many rebound dont work but you can't count on that. You just need to count on what you have going for and what you want next. His relationship may or may not work out but we can't over-rule anything because we just don't know what will happen. In reality you never know who will be the right person for you. Just in each relationship go into it if you can with a fresh start. All relationships are different so you never know person to person who is right or who is wrong until you actually know.

beesting
02-25-2005, 11:32 AM
I hear you eightball, and I wanted to let you know right now, I have decided that in order to help me with getting over my ex, I had to realize that things do happen for a reason. Yesterday, I was unable to go to work because the night before I received disturbing news from one of my friends regarding our relationship. After hearing the news, I couldn't sleep. So to get it off my chest i decided to compose an e-mail. AS I was nearing the end of the e-mail, his screen name on YAHOO IM lit up. I took this as a sign. So I decided to make the first move. It was small talk at first and then I asked him for permission about the e-mail. He said ok and added "i have to tell you that this will be the last time u will communicate with me." I was so hurt... my insides were twisting... and of course I said I understood. He finalized that day that it was really over and that he no intentions of getting back together with me, ever... DONE! My heart was wrenched from my chest and I was empty... I cried all night and all day yesterday... I felt that earth-shattering pain all over my body... In the back of head I knew this was coming... I knew to prepare for it... But I wasn't. At some point late yesterday afternoon, I forced myself to look into the mirror to see what kind of mess I wrought on myself... I was glad I did because I saw myself for the first time in years... I saw the eyes that look back that said, "I want to help you". It was me a long time ago, me, who in the beginning of my relationship was the kind of person that knew never to give up and to face life's problem with a laugh and optimism and prayers... My ex fell in love with that girl and she disappeared in our relationship... I realized that we all go through stages and change... I changed without even knowing it... I always thought it was the people around me that changed but I changed along with them. It was at this time that I finally acknowledged the fact that my role in my ex's life is done... I don't know if I ever mentioned this fact about him but in the beginning, he was very weak as a person. He thought he needed someone to be happy or to let him continue to be part of this world... His leaving me is proving that he can go on his own now without me... Of course it could also mean he has found another wonderful person to replace me, but it's ok. The reason why I say this is because if he stayed with me... he would probably never improve himself as a person... In the beginning, when were first freinds and then a couple, he had tried to commit suicide because of certain things that had happened in his life and I think I was a big part of the reason why he tried to do it... He never admitted it, but I had a feeling. I was there at the time of his life when he needed someone to show him that he was worth more than what he felt at that time. I was there when He needed someone to show him that someone can care about him no matter what he did or who he was. I should have been gone from his life after he had recovered from that illness, but instead his father died and I stayed on. He still needed me. Now that everything seems to be falling into place, my place in his life is done. I was not helping him anymore and he was not helping me. His role in my life was to show me LOVE... Back then I was a against love. I didn't want to have anything to do with it. That was why I was a later bloomer. I was scared. My ex showed me the courage to experience it and to fight for it... Now he is also done... he kept showing me how much he loved me but I wanted more from him... It was almost like he became my god after a time, he was the one I thought about in the morning, noon and night... because my Faith was everything to me in the beginning, I forgot about it. I prayed hard yesterday and I saw the answers in my prayers. Chatting on these forums also helped me realize it.

Now, eightball, my question at this time is, with all this drama involving my ex and I, how can someone just write out a person that was once so special to you completely out of your life? I did not argue when he decided to never communicate with me... It's kinda sad that thisis how he feels... I feel that in time, he might become bitter and cold and is it worth it to feel that way for someone? I cannot carry that kind of burden to my grave... I would feel that I never forgave the person...

eightball61
02-25-2005, 01:22 PM
He clearfly just wants to move on. I know this is not the news you wanted to hear but by him not talking to you again or any form of communication it will help him move on and start things with his new love. He has said he never wants to communicate again and thats a wish that you have to come to respect. I know you want to know why but not always you'll get the answer to every question. After so long in trying you have to learn that its ok to give up. You both had your special bond but now he has moved on with his life and you haven't and thats ok. Just because he has moved on it doesn't mean anything like he never cared. We all have speeds of recovery and his is just a tad faster. When you find another partner you'll look back at this and understand why...

beesting
02-25-2005, 02:59 PM
Sometimes it's hard to just move on and pretend or forget things that was so real in one's life for a long time. Eightball, it is valiant of you to provide me with realistic answers. I know I have to be true to myself and accept that he is gone. I know that and I am trying to handle it as best as I can. I am still learning and I know I can recover. Neither one of our lives will ever be the same... and this is the part that is scaring me most. I still care enough that I know I would still be there for him, should that same darkness that had engolfed him years ago ever return. I hope that this woman will also stand by his side...

eightball61
02-25-2005, 03:06 PM
You know its good that you still care for him and you want the best for him but you wont be able to guide him. He did make his stand and told you what he thinks is best for him to move on. I hope I didn't offend you with the realistic measures that I have provided but I wanted you to see a clearer picture rather than hide from it. When you find a new partner though and give him your heart like you once did to this ex you will look back upon this and think differently. I am sure he will still be in your heart but there will be a time where you can move on peacefully. The world soesn't always work to our advantage and you see that here but things happen for a reason. We are here for you anytime though ;)

beesting
02-26-2005, 02:40 PM
Thank you, eightball... Rest assured you have not in any way offended me regarding anything you said. All of your reasoning made logical sense. Right now I am keeping busy with house work, caring for my parents, caring for myself, I am finally able to address my back problems and also trying to look for extracurricular activities like modern dance or exercise... Of course he is still inside my heart... There are still pangs which I anticipate in time will dissipate along with his memory... he was always the type of person who remembered every moment... He was the type of person who would remember a tune or a place or even a color and associate some kind of event that happened during that particular place in time... That's why I still have questions about his recent involvement with this new relationship, but like you said, this is how he is choosing to move on. I just hope that it is not a mistake... like "jumping out of the frying pan and into the fryer" type of thing... Only time...

eightball61
02-26-2005, 04:29 PM
He has made up a decision that is to his favor. He will see down the road if that was a mistake or nt but right now he feels this is the right thing to do. As for you I believe you are doing the right things and you understand on top of that. Just with this post along you made some really good progress. Keep up everything and this will fly by you. when you are ready to date again you will see a big change.

eightball61
02-26-2005, 04:29 PM
He has made up a decision that is to his favor. He will see down the road if that was a mistake or nt but right now he feels this is the right thing to do. As for you I believe you are doing the right things and you understand on top of that. Just with this post along you made some really good progress. Keep up everything and this will fly by you. when you are ready to date again you will see a big change.

beesting
02-28-2005, 03:16 PM
Am still wishing for a happy ending... Not just for me but for everyone who has opened their hearts to people who cared enough to write down their thoughts here on this forum. I feel like I found a new place of special people... I am still gettin gover my loss, but with a positive outlook. I am just looking at what I got from my experience and hopefully, many who are going through this same heart ache can realize the same thing and adjust with a new phase or newmeaning about their life. For anyone else who reads my story, please know that I am hopeful for all the broken hearted people in the world. If you do not have anyone to confide in, write us here if you do not want it posted, you can e-mail me... my e-mail is lexiepup@excite.com... GOOD LUCK to one and all...

eightball61
02-28-2005, 03:43 PM
^^ this is a very nice post here. ^^ & also please keep intouch anytime and feel free to share advice also. We welcome you to the community anytime :) Just hang in there and things will change for the better in time. My girlfriend once said that you have to hit rock bottom before thing to get better and this is a quote I truelly beleive in. You hit the rock bottom with this relationship but you know you'll find a way to dig out so hang in there ;)

Pamelina
02-28-2005, 11:20 PM
[QUOTE=beesting]That's just it! Recovery time... When love hurts, there's that period of grief before one can move on. Losing out on love is almost like losing a loved one in death... When the grieving process is skipped, how can one move on truly?

Yes, do grieve however you need to and for as long as it takes you. Get it all out and over with, is what I say. It is like a death- turns you absolutely inside out. But in a way, I think somewhat better because when a person you love dies, there is just no replacing them, it's final as can be.

But with relationships, there can at least be another, hopefully better one down the way. And even if the next one is not perfect or doesn't make you totally forget about the last person, it'll still help you to move forward in good ways.

Plus, it's always nice to feel desirable to someone again.

beesting
03-01-2005, 03:42 AM
Pam,

Thank you for your input. You are quite right about the next relationship. Right now it is still hard for me to move on because I am still in the grieving process... I was a late bloomer, so I expect this will also take a long time for me to get over. Everything I have ever done took a while for me to get used to... Even falling in love...

Pamelina
03-01-2005, 04:17 AM
I had to edit that beesting. I meant if the next person doesn't make you completely forget the last one, you're still putting yourself in the swim--or trying anyway. (:rolleyes: Nothing like typing the wrong thing for someone in need!)

But weeks ago, I couldn't have looked at another man, let alone let go of my grief--not even for an hour. There I would have sat, at the dinner table or wherever, either thinking--or even worse, talking about the guy that just gave me the gate.

beesting
03-01-2005, 04:42 AM
You know, Pam, that is still where I am at. Right now it just scares the h*** out of me to try and get together with anyone else, only because I have been so hurt with this relationship. Because I am such a late bloomer and maybe I am using this as an excuse right now, but because of this fact, it's still hard to go from day to day not expecting anything from him... Don't get me wrong, but I am trying my best to just take it one day at a time. I am trying to adjust to the fact that he will no longer be there like before and he is no longer with me... I mentioned to eightball that I can't understand how he could just be with another woman when a month or even weeks barely passed before he got close to another. In one of these forums, I think I might have mentioned it too... but REBOUND relationships were mentioned but as disclosed not everyone has the same recovery rate as the next. I agree with this. This morning, and let me tell you this experience has brought me closer to my Faith, which is another positive result of the break up, I was praying and thoughts of him enterred my mind. I had to take deep breath because thoughts of him still hit me like a powerful bolt of lighting. In my prayers, I told God that if he is with this other woman in more than a friendly way, I prayed and hope he has chosen to be with her for all the right reason. I prayed that he is not with her to help him get over me, because he genuinely feels more than romantic love... Now that I know the difference between romantic love and TRUE LOVE... I would not want romantic love for anyone, because romantic love is not long lasting... It is felt only for the moment and it does subside... At the end of my prayer, I asked Him to allow me to establish this want in my heart, because my heart still wants him back. I acknowledge this but I want what is best for him, even if I will never see him again. Wanting what's best for him proves that I did love him as best as I could. I wouldn't call it TRUE LOVE, only because I believe that TRUE LOVE is shared by both parties involved. Whatever I did feel for him was real and is real and that is why I still pray for him and even after years pass, I am hoping to continue to pray for him because he was a friend to me first before anything else...

beesting
03-01-2005, 04:57 AM
I have just finished posting a reply here to Pam... I wanted to elaborate more about what has been going on...

Yes, he is still constantly in my thoughts, I do try to push it back by doing things like reading, writing or chatting online. I spend most of my time on the phone too with friends and family members. I try not to talk about it anymore, but it's hard when it's still constantly hovering in the back of your mind. I spoke to a female friend today who has similar beliefs and morales as I do. I met her on another forum online and when I initially read her story, it was so eerie... I thought I wrote it... I just had to talk to her. She finally called me today and we both "boohooed" on the phone. It really felt good to talk to someone who has been there and still doing it. I might invite her to come to this forum and post her thoughts, too. For now we are both ok... Hanging in there...

Pamelina
03-01-2005, 07:49 AM
Good for you, wishing him the best, beesting. I'm not quite there myself because of the way I was shut out and made to feel like a thing, instead of a person. And I don't understand how a person can jump out of one involvement and right into another, either. I sure couldn't.

You obviously need to talk about what happened with him, just like I did/do. And since this is such a widespread, universal experience, this kind of heartbreak, there will always be caring people to listen and understand--some really great at it.

I was weeping a little earlier myself. Not for wanting him anymore but just for the hurt that happened upon me that I sure as hell didn't need. And I guess I'm a little angry coupled with being so confused. I think he handled this very badly and flakily (is that a real word? :confused: ) He pulled me out of my little world to be his friend and lover for a couple months, for crying out loud, and I can't even get 5 minutes out of him for some much-needed closure. Probably never will get it.

I don't even need go on and on to him. I could sum it all up in less than 5 min since I'd be the only one doing the talking. And who would want to belabor a one-sided, you-doing-all-the-work-conversation anyway? Or be hung up on in mid-important-sentence.

So I talk it out with other people who do care about my feelings, just like you are doing. And I'll do it until the whole thing fades and is finally just a memory. But I'll never feel good about what happened--not unless there were some breakthru or by some miracle his flinty heart softened a little.

I think you are on the right track sending him some positive thoughts--shows you're getting freer of him. And anyway, what possible good do the negative ones ever do?

Take care!

beesting
03-01-2005, 11:55 AM
Pam,

It has been truly inspirational reading everyone's story here, and if posting your thoughts and feelings here are able to help you, then please continue to post it.

I may be wishing positive thoughts to my ex, but it doesn't necessarily mean those "good" thoughts are siincere at times. That's why I pray that someday, it will come purely from the heart instead of something in my head. I feel it would make a bigger difference if it was directly form the heart. Even if you are not yet at that stage, not everyone does it or even want to do the same thing. It's ok to want bad things for your neighbor once in a while especially because of what you went through with him and still going through with him. We are all human beings with powerful emotions and it is hard to overcome most especially those feelings that we initially feel after a break up, mainly hate or grief... and how we react to these emotions I think is character building. Whether you choose to be negative or positive about it is up to you... I choose to be a positive thinker and doer because this is what makes me feel good about myself. I think that is the key... whatever makes you feel better about yourself... that's the direction we should take.

eightball61
03-01-2005, 01:41 PM
Right now it just scares the h*** out of me to try and get together with anyone else, only because I have been so hurt with this relationship. .


& that will change over time. Many people that get over relationships find it hard to be with someone new because there mind has been in thinking that this would have been the person and after the breakup its hard for the mind to accept that this may have never meant to be. The mind works like a wound and it takes time for it to heal. When a breakup occurs you go through stages like shock to the mind, confusion, then adjusting back to lifestyle you had when single, and then it will be ready to date. If this makes sense it all takes time.