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hmmm
06-29-2009, 11:27 PM
Hello all
Long one so bear with!
Im having some issues with my bloke.. regarding the dreaded .. Weve been together for 9 months now and for the first few months it was never really an issue. Id see him 3 or 4 times a week and i never questioned how much he'd look at it when I wasnt with him. We were having a casual chat about it about 4 months ago and I got the impression he does it pretty much every night that I dont see him. After a few days of thinking about it I realised that i wasnt too happy about it as we were having pretty much every time we met anyway, so I asked him if he could try and cut down, better still just stop. I explained how I thought it was ok to do normally but when your in a relationship its not really necissary and a bit wrong etc etc. He said he understood and could see what I mean and that he'd stop. So I didnt bring it up for a few weeks thinking it was all sorted.
We had some kind of issue a few weeks on and the issue cropped up again, he told me reluctantly he was still doing it and I got a bit upset on the phone, I told him it hurts me when he does it and I want him to be all mine kind of thing and not fantasize over other women. He promised me he wouldnt do it ever again, swore on his sons life, really went to town on reassuring me, 'just let me in, trust me again' etc.
So, we had this moment between us and it got reslolved.
Nearly a week on I didnt think for a second he was doing it, I casually asked him 'so hows the free life going?' and I got a stumbling answer back of 'erm yes its ok'. Obviously I picked up on the doubt and asked him more, 2 HOURS later of him lying, swearing on his sons life he was telling the truth, getting aggitated and visibly uncomfortable the more he lied, he then confesses to doing it twice since he made the promise to me on the phone a week before, and the last time he did it was the day before, which was only the day after we had had last.
I was looking at him lying and how he was acting and it was cringworthy, he was riddled with guilt but just didnt admit it. Even when he did he was justifying it, 'yes I looked at it but it was only google images of women and not hardcore '. He didnt seem to have any remorse for it. I had to make out to him that 'i didnt mind him doing it' just to get him to confess.
So anyway, I asked him to leave and told him i didnt want to speak to him again. It was more the lies that put me off him. Anyway.. I get calls and texts from him saying how sorry he was and we met up a couple of days later. He tells me the was more of an issue than he thought and that he would do anything to have me back and swore to me it wouldnt happen again. The issue dragged for about 4 days, I was unsure what to think or believe. I did in the back of my mind think he may have just been saying it all and had no intenetion of sticking to it as he didnt last time.. but I went with my heart and gave it another go. We had a long chat on the 4th day that dragged on to the early hours, he promised me he would never ask for another chance, he didnt want to it up again but just wanted one chance. So I did.. On the condition that I had his laptop (that lived in his room) at my house til I feel I can trust him again. He didnt hesistate at the idea and gave it straight over. Even bought a book on ' addiction'. Well, i made him buy it!
This is about 2 & 1/2 months ago now and ive still got the laptop here. A new issue about it seems to have risen. His dad has a computer in their front room which he has been using for eBay etc. Ive had a few little doubts thinking 'he might' but if ive brought it up hes always reassured me. We spent the night together on Friday, had a few drinks, I asked him if he has looked at any since that last time months ago. He told me he hadnt. I noticed a slight hesistation so I asked a few more times. He then says that he was looking on Yahoo news and come accross an article on Mel B from the Spice Girls doing some Berlesque show. He told me he opened the page and there was two pictures of her with it all out. He couldnt help but get turned on, he sat with his dad watching TV for a few hours then 'sorted himself out' later that night before going to sleep. I was a bit put out by it but thought, well he didnt exaclty hunt for it so ok. I asked him if that was it and he promised me and swore on his boys life again that he was telling the truth. Very believable so I believed him!
Weve just spent the weekend together and its been in the back of my mind still a bit. I brought it up with him yesterday again and wanted to know more. I think he forgot what he had told me on Friday and the story changed to 'I seen her pictures on Yahoo then 10 minutes later I popped upstairs to **** and then I come back down to chat to my dad before going to bed.' Because of this story change I then didnt believe he had only looked at the two pictures on the website so I looked it up on Yahoo myself to see what he seen. The article had no photos of her in any show but did mention it within text. He reluctantly stuck to the story of seeing pictures on Yahoo when he'd seen it. So, I then say, OK i'll message Yahoo and ask them if they have taken off any photos since putting the article up...... He then admits he did a Google search of it after reading the article, and may have got confused whether he seem it on Yahoo or Google. After about half an hour of more confusion and potential lies he then says also that he 'may have' changed the text he was looking up a few times to just 'Burlesque show' rather than looking up 'Mel B in particular' but he 'couldnt remember'.
..Well the reason he and i justified the issue in the first place was because he was only interested in seeing what one of the ex spice girls was doing.. and then he ends up looking at any burlesque show pictures then going up for a wank.. So surely thats going back to the thing?! He thinks not for some reason he cant explain, i ask if HE thinks hes done anything wrong and after getting defensive and moody for no reason, he then says no.
So anyway, this whole new confession put a mega doubt in my head and I thought, this i need to know the truth once and for all, me having his laptop obviously doesnt prevent him from doing it, and hes still lying so what more??
So I told him I want him to do a lie detector! I looked it up on a website, they travel to you, they ask 3 questions you would like to know and a load of other questions to get the readings right. I told him if it comes back saying hes lying he will pay, if not then we both will pay. Fair enough. He gets all shifty and nervous about it, starts acting how he did when i confronted him months before about it. I read out the info on the website and he picked up on the '98% accurate bit' saying that he might fall into this 2%. I told him I will get the person to ask the same question 3 times then just incase. He gets all edgey again and goes quiet. I said to him, if we have to go through all of this humiuliation and it turns out your lying then your out on your and were done, but if theres anything you want to tell me now before then yes i might get in a piss but we can talk about it. He just stays quiet. I looked at him and said you want to tell me something dont you.. He hesistates then says no theres nothing. He said at one point "if.. no.. when it comes back that im telling the truth..." Might have been a slip of the tongue i know but i cant help thinking the worst!
He does tend to lie to me about things, not just this, because (i quote) 'He doesnt want to hurt me'. His nutty ex had confessed her love to him about 5 months ago and he only told me that the other day when I asked him to tell me anything else hes lied about. Hes swore blind for months she hasnt ever said anything like that. Theres lots of things he tells me porkies about and every time he promises he wont again, and then he does, I dont know why. But this thing has become a mega issue, and he acts really really dodgey about it. Today hes had a whole change of heart saying 'ok lets do it book it now i want to do it', a big change from last nights behaviour!

I just wanted to see if anyone has had a similar issue with this or what you think about my situation.. If youve managed to read through all of it! (sorry!) Any advice is appreciated! I dont want to float along like a twit and not realise if im being a complete mug!

hmmm
07-01-2009, 11:22 PM
Blimey I apologies for the amount there!

eightball61
07-02-2009, 09:36 AM
I personally haven't been through this issue but i will say you're not alone. Some people can take it while others can't. Coming from a man, I will say most men do look at on a regular basis whether if thier partner knows about it or not. Just like the ol' saying "what you don't know won't hurt". True but when you know you'rehurt and crushed like someone just cheated on you.

From this point you just need to make the decision if you can handle this or not(try to keep in mind you may face it in another relationship because of it being common). Second, instead of you both arguing over lying, ect. try to find a happy medium. I know it may still not settle with you but ifyou want the lying to stop and the relationship to last you need to give a little give somewhere.

PrincessB
07-02-2009, 10:23 PM
The has nothing to do with you but the lying is a problem. A guy is going to look at whether you like it or not and its an embarrassing subject no guy wants to talk about. You have to understand that his looking at has nothing to do with the fact that you don't satisfy him and he probably doesn't think there is anything wrong with it because he knows there isn't. This is your problem at this point that you need to deal with. Trust me, I was in your position and have had to accept my bf is a perv and it has nothing to do with his attraction or satisfaction level with me.

My bf knows that there is no to be left around and if left out will be in the garbage. He also knows that honesty is the best policy with me and learned that because there is no punishment or backlash when he is honest. There can't be. Its okay to tell him how you feel and then drop it! If you freak out by the truth all the time then he isn't going to come clean because he can't trust you. The trust has to go both ways.

You stepped over the line by going on his computer and that is a betrayal of trust that warrants a kick to the curb. Give him back his computer and if you don't like what you find on it don't go on it. It is none of your business what is on his personal computer unless you happen upon something illegal then you have a duty to report to the authorities. You are not the authorities and need to work on your self confidence or you will lose this guy. The trust has to start with you first because believe it or not you betrayed him first and then demonstrated that you cannot be trusted.

My bf used my PDA to check his e-mail and forgot to log out. I later received a notification he did NOT want me to see! I confronted him and told him how it made me feel. I sought advice and reconciled that the message was not for me and although it was my phone I had no right to look at that.
Speaking from experience and if you don't believe me I will be more than happy to discuss that experience with you.

JimmysSlave
07-03-2009, 02:29 AM
Yeah... the lying would be my issue, not the . My bf used to look at on the net on more than a regular basis, so I said "Right, if its sooo good, then I'll watch it with you!" So I then proceeded to sit there and laugh my ass off at this , it was hysterical!! Totally put him off when I pointed out all the "fakeness" etc, problem solved, he still looks from time to time, but no longer gets off on it :)
But liars... I hate liars. Wish I could be of more help to you there, but Ive no idea how sorry.

hmmm
07-03-2009, 02:47 AM
Hi thanks for your replies.

I guess I just dont like the thought of him getting off on other girls. You dont see.. lets say.. tigers leaving their mate to go and hump over the tiger living next door then going back to his mrs! (If thats a good example on how I see it?!)

Your right it is the lies that make the issue 12 times worse with the . If he just owned up, i'd be in a strop but would get over it because hes been honest. But when he lies it causes more issues later on with other things as the trust breaks down. He lies about other little things aswell as this, I know he only does it to 'protect me' but why not just get it out in the open?!

I do know it would be alot easier for us if I was comfortable with this thing, but totally honestly, im really not and I wouldnt want to tell him I was, because thats not true. I do find it an issue. I know theres guys out there that aint too bothered with it all (all be it, a rare few) but im only 23 im in no rush to find 'mr.right' anyway.

I guess my question is, this guy im seeing now thinks he can/ has stopped it cause he says he really wants to be with me. And I beleive him. But surely if its in him in the first place id only be preventing whats natural to him and what he enjoys and one day when hes fully comfortable in our relationship he'll just go straight back to it....
Its alot to put my trust back into him for the .. how ever manyth' time to go through it all again...

hmmm
07-03-2009, 02:51 AM
(Oh and I didnt go on his computer btw, I went onto mine to see this news thing he was talking about but didnt look on his)

eightball61
07-03-2009, 12:15 PM
I guess my question is, this guy im seeing now thinks he can/ has stopped it cause he says he really wants to be with me. And I beleive him. But surely if its in him in the first place id only be preventing whats natural to him and what he enjoys and one day when hes fully comfortable in our relationship he'll just go straight back to it....
Its alot to put my trust back into him for the .. how ever manyth' time to go through it all again...




Again, you both just need to find a happy medium on this. I will tell you he'd be lying if he would say he'll never look at again. Just come out the truth...it bothers you but you'll get over it as long as it doesn't interrupt your guys fun in the sack.

Howard
07-03-2009, 12:54 PM
is ok in some relationships,just as long as it doesn't become an issue.

sheila9988
07-06-2009, 01:28 PM
My fiance does not look at ography. I have never had any problems with it but he just doesnt like it. So there is men out there that do not look at it. if he enjoys it then he will probably continue doing it after a while

PrincessB
07-08-2009, 08:04 PM
My ex was not into AT ALL! It disgusted him and that's what made it so hard for me to accept that my current beau loves it.

Because your guy is so into it he is not going to "recover" from his desire for it so you should probably decide if this is a deal breaker for you. I have determined that if this is the biggest problem I have with my man then I am willing to work it out and accept that he is into .

Howard
07-08-2009, 10:53 PM
I have no issues with in a relationship,If the girl is as as you then she might be a kind of person if she's into watching the same thing you are into.

Helper
07-20-2009, 01:33 AM
Hey,

ography shouldnt be an issue in a relationship. It just means he has a high drive, and since he cant make love with you he needs another outlet to release his energy. However an alternative would be to make some tapes, or things of that nature that have you in it, and let him keep it for the times you arent there :)

But this lying thing, thats really BIG. He swore on his sons life but he still did it. I think that is really BAD in a rshp. Good thing that you know if he lies :)

I really cant tell you what to do, but I do want to help.