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Iamsoconfused
03-06-2005, 06:49 PM
This is going to be long and so I apologize. I really need advice and help, so please if you read this, respond if you can. Thank you so much. I will give all of the background information on this whole situation, and then I will explain what is “wrong.”

I ‘dated’ a guy named “S” from May until December of 2003, off and on. The reason why I say ‘dated’ is because I could not technically date then, not until October of that year. By the way, I am 16 (Please don’t judge this situation on my age). Anyways, I dated him off and on for about 7 months. To me, he was my first love, but he was also the first boy that really hurt me. We were both immature at the time and had no real life experienced behind us. But, I was drawn to this boy; he was the “bad boy” and I was the complete opposite. I was so drawn to him, mainly at first for that reason; he was so different from me, and I loved it.

I never in a million years thought that this boy would like me. I was just your average person who tried to make it day through day. I wasn’t a “bad” kid; in fact, I was probably half way toward the opposite of that. But, regardless of all of that, he liked me. He choose to like me. Think at what a 14-year-old girl, like I was then, felt. I felt like the most special girl in the entire world. He asked me out and everyone wondered what the heck I was doing, dating this kid. He was immature like any normal 14 year old, but worse, he did a lot of bad things (immature things), and well quite frankly he was a jerk. But that didn’t affect me, because I was his girlfriend.

I am sure you all are probably thinking: “Wow, you picked a real prize.” But, he was the first boy I actually was half way toward dating. Every other boy at this point that I went “out” with, it was the typical eat lunch together and just having the novelty of saying “he or she is my girlfriend/boyfriend” when you really can’t be boyfriend and girlfriend/dating, if you aren’t really dating; you are not even seeing each other outside of school. If that makes sense.

With “S” though, we did in a way date. I would lie to my Mom and during the summer (I was home alone) I would go over to his house. After school, I would go to his house. He would do the same when my Mom would be away for a while. I was not allowed to date at this point in my life, no 14 year old should be able to date, but I didn’t care because I loved him. Some people I am sure think that a 14-year-old girl has no clue about love, but looking back on it, despite the bad feelings I had toward him for quite some time, I know I did indeed love him.

So anyways, I would sneak over there and such for all of those months; my Mom never knew. Back then, her and I had a horrible relationship, so I really didn’t care if she would approve or not. He was the first boy I ever kissed, he was the first boy that ever really hugged me – in a different way other than the normal hug, if that makes any sense, he was the first boy that I did anything with (No, we never had ). He was my first for everything, including my first heartbreaks.

Even though I liked him so much, he treated me like a jerk. At that time, he was probably the most immature person I knew. He was more self-involved then, and wanted me more for the novelty of having me. He never really wanted to talk to me on the phone, he would talk to me online sometimes, and he never really told me how “he felt.” I wondered if he even felt anything. He was not the type of person to ever share his feelings; he was trying to be some big bad hard ass. It worked I guess. We broke up about 3 times; I did it twice and he did it once. The first time we broke up, I just got fed up with everything and I broke up with him. The second time, it was in a way mutual, but more of him than me.

Speaking of that second break up, I messed up a lot in my life during the few months until we would date again. I hung out with the wrong people, I did stuff with a few other guys to just try and ease the pain – I know that is not an “excuse” and was wrong, and I drank some. At that point in my life, I couldn’t deal with anything that ever happened, especially not that. After not being together for 3 months or so, he wanted to date again. At this point however, I was already dating someone else; I was actually allowed to date at this point.

“S” and I ended very badly. Things were said and it was just complete and utter drama. He hated me and quite frankly, I felt the same. I hated him for wasting my time, I hated him for hurting me, I hated him for “using” me, I hated him for everything. I look back to that time, and I realize just how immature and dramatic it all was; to be so clueless about life…

I started dating “J” in November of 2003. He is a year older than me and completely different than “S”. He is more emotional and tends to show his emotions way more than “S” did; a little too much really. He is very romantic and shows it. I was so drawn to him because he was so different than “S” and at that point in my life, that is what I needed. I fell for him very fast, faster than I probably should have allowed myself to. But I was on cloud 9, more than I should have been; I fell so hard shortly after.

“S” came back into my life the next month. He came back fast and hard. He told me that he wanted to be with me again. Real (dating) relationships were new to me and I didn’t even know what to do. But, instead of staying with “J” I went back to an old habit; “S”. I really broke “J”’s heart, and he hated me for it. We didn’t date that long, but I really think it hurt him. So, I started dating “S” and shortly after, I realized I had made a mistake. Actually, I didn’t know what I really wanted. I decided to end things with “S” and try to get “J” to take me back. I felt that what was missing was “J”

“J” hated me for so long and would not even talk to me. He would not really talk to me for 2 weeks, even though I tried so hard to get him to. Finally, on December 20th of 2003, he talked to me. He told me that he realized that being a jerk was not going to make him not like me any less or forget about it. He decided that we could go to a movie the next day and see how things went. I prayed so hard that he would decided to be with me again. He did decide to be with me again. Since December 21st of 2003, we have been together (Except for the 2 little less than a day “Break-ups” :rolleyes: .. I will explain those in a bit).

At first, I didn’t want to get too close. But, that feeling shortly ended. We became the “perfect” couple, the one everyone wanted to be. It felt good, but at the same time; I think that was the downfall. Everyone said we were perfect and for a bit, I thought so too. It’s a hard thing to realize; that everything is not “perfect.” From December to May we were doing pretty well. Of course, we had some rough spots; but what relationship doesn’t? In May, everything changed. My Dad passed away and in a way, a bit of our relationship left with him. I became depressed and just so unattached to “J”. I didn’t even want to see him for so long. Finally, I came out of it and we tried to basically rebuild us again; as everything sort of came crashing down at this point.

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Iamsoconfused
03-06-2005, 06:49 PM
I realized that as some time went on, we (ourselves personally and our relationship) had changed a lot. We were seen as the perfect couple for so long and I think after this and after things started to change, both myself and others realized …. We weren’t so perfect; quite opposite. I still tried to tell myself for so long. Its easier to lie to yourself sometimes, than it is to let yourself see the truth. That’s exactly what I did…

During the summer of 2004, there were times in which we argued and such. I took it as normal; every relationship has its tough spots, I know that. But, it was after school started that things really just turned bad. He (“J”) started being more inconsiderate, immature, rude to me occasionally, and sometimes just a plain jerk. I didn’t understand how he could go from the complete opposite to that. I just tried to work with it though and get him to see how he was acting to change; but unfortunately, you can only see what you want to see.

I broke up with him the first time because I just could not handle things anymore. I was so stressed and just sick of the fighting, etc., I just wanted it to stop. Less than about 5 hours from then, I called him and we started dating again. I know it seems stupid for me to just have broken up with him because I felt so overwhelmed, but I got to the point of feeling like my life was completely out of control.

He would be a jerk to me and everything, and then he would apologize and say how sorry he was. I of course, believed him and would let it go. He actually at one point, when I tried to walk away from him (when I didn’t want to talk to him at that moment) he grabbed my arm. I looked at him and I told him to let me go. He said that walking away does not help anything. THAT is when I realized something was really wrong.

He did this and then he broke down and promised to never do it again. I will not take that crap because my ex step dad emotionally abused me and a few times physically abused me when I was a child. I told myself that I would never take that sort of stuff; ever. I honestly, don’t think he realized what he was doing. I mean, I am 5’ 2’’ and 103 pounds, I am not strong honestly. So, if a bigger person does that, what can I do? I am not making excuses for him because wrong is wrong, but I don’t think he understood that he is stronger than me and such.

“J” is different now. He will be okay to me and then suddenly he’s not. That is one thing I still don’t understand about him. One minute he is fine to me and “perfect” and the next minute, he is a completely different person. I know he is not bipolar, but I do think that there are some underlying issues from his childhood going on, in which are coming out now and he can’t deal with them.

EX: His Dad cheated on his Mom when he was younger and then his Dad just left. He has always hated his Dad for this, but also, I think that because of this, he does not want to just ‘let go’ of me, even for a little bit.

I suggested counseling to him after the whole arm grabbing incidents; yes, it happened a few times. I also talked to my Mom about it and she said that it is not acceptable and if it happens again, she will personally deal with it (she tries to let me handle my own relationship as much as I can). Anyways, he went to counseling and he started to slowly get a little better. Our relationship started to run more smoothly and things were great for a little. But, after 4 sessions, he thought everything with himself was “perfect” again and that he didn’t need to go anymore. That was his mistake….

He is now still in those patterns of at times being an absolute sweetheart to me and being the best boyfriend he can be … And then suddenly, he isn’t like that. It got to the point that the other day, I ended things again. I actually got to the point of just wanting to give up. I talked to my Mom for hours and I told her every little thing about us and myself. Her and I have never been very close due to things that happened in my childhood, but I told her everything…

She told me that I needed to do what I felt was right. She said “Sometimes things just do not work out, no matter how much you want them to. Sometimes you have to walk away. Its hard, but it has to be done sometimes.” I knew she was right. See, part of me at that point felt it would be easier/better to walk away and part of my loved(s) him too much to do it. How do you walk away from something you love yet “hate”?

It is now to the point were I am so confused about everything and upset, I don’t even want him touching me. Our relationship feels so non-existent sometimes.

Yesterday, I started talking to “S” again. I had not talked to him since August of 2004. Us starting to talk just added “fuel to the fire.” I see him in school every day, but we still never talked. I blocked and deleted him on MSN messenger because he was a part of my life in which I wanted to forget and not even deal with. But, I felt that after not talking for almost 7 months, that we could start talking and be friends. Boy was that one big mistake.

We started talking and it was weird at first. But, I in a way feel okay talking to him; comfortable. The conversation ended and I thought okay, that’s that, see you around. Then, I got online last night and it changed everything and this is what is making me question everything about my life. We started just having a regular conversation (How are you doing, etc. etc.) and then he sprung everything on me. Well, I guess I started it in a way.

I was talking to him and I asked him if there was anything he wanted to ask me; as we have not talked in so long. He asked me “Have you ever thought about giving me a second chance?” I thought to myself, after 7 months of not talking, you are asking me this? I explained to him that I couldn’t even think about giving him a second chance because 1) I am dating someone 2) He hurt me so much before, how could I even remotely trust that he would not do it again?

But, after talked more and more, I realized that he is not the same person as he was then. What gets to me most, is the fact that I care he is saying all of these things. In fact, we talked from about 12:00 AM – 6:30 AM about this stuff, I just didn’t get it.

I told him that I hated him for doing this to me, for saying everything when he knows I am dating someone else. He said to me, “Everytime I see you, you guys are fighting.” “I know the stuff he does to you; the arm thing, etc.” The more I talked to “S”, the more I realized how much is really wrong with my relationship with “J”. I am stuck in this place in which:

1) I love “J” and I really want us to work. I have already put in over a year with him and I didn’t want to give up. I mean, there are times in which he is wonderful and great and I really want to be with him forever **I know some people don’t think its possible to know you want to marry someone when you are 16, but anyways**.
2) I am 16. Part of me does not want to feel like I am married already. I want to be 16, I want to hang out with people, I want to be able to talk to other guys without making someone else – boyfriend, mad. I want to be able to live my own life and not be fighting with someone all of the time.

Sometimes, I feel like “J” and I are in this endless cycle of arguing. I hate it. I love him so much and he is someone I could easily see myself marrying someday. But then again, isn’t it saying something when someone can just walk back into my life after 7 months, and make me question everything in my life? I am not saying that I want to date “S” or anyone else for that matter. But, as far as my relationship with “J” goes, I just won’t know about it anymore…

I am feeling SO many emotions that it hurts. Part of me wants to keep trying to make my relationship with “J” work because I love him and want to marry him someday. Part of me wants to keep trying and see how things go from here. Part of me loves him so much that it absolutely kills me to think about not being with him.

But, another part of me is questioning everything. This part of me is sick of arguing, sick of crying, sick of fighting, sick of being in a relationship in which gets better, worse, better, worse, etc. I am fighting with myself (emotions) and I don’t know what to do anymore.

Part of me wants to be with him and possibly be forever. But part of me, wants to live me life and possibly be happier without him. I am just scared to let go, only to find out that is not what I should have done. Once the damage is done this time, it will be done forever; I don’t know anymore.

I just don’t know. I just want to forget about everything and not even deal with it. I know that seems cowardish, but I honestly don’t know what to do anymore. I love him and I mean, we’re supposed to go to Florida for a week in April and I’ve been looking forward to it for so long. I think that maybe during that vacation, things will change and we’ll realize how to fix things with us. But, this other part of me is just sick of it and does not even want to be around him. I feel like such an awful person and I hate it :’(

I am not even sure if anyone can give advice on this, but I just need help. I am going to tell “J” everything that was said between “S” and I and my feelings. But, I don’t know where to go from there because I don’t even know what I want anymore or anything,

I am sorry that this was so long. But, I needed to get everything out and hopefully get advice on it. I just don’t know anymore and it hurts. Its one thing to not know about some of your life and what is going on. It is another thing to not feel like you have any control over your own life, and you have no clue what it is you really want/feel anymore.

Thank you to anyone that reads this.

eightball61
03-07-2005, 01:09 PM
2) I am 16. Part of me does not want to feel like I am married already. I want to be 16, I want to hang out with people, I want to be able to talk to other guys without making someone else – boyfriend, mad. I want to be able to live my own life and not be fighting with someone all of the time.




This is your answer without realizing it. Its tough dealing and getting over first loves but people learn to move on. Its not that they will never be forgotten but if something is not working out you take it and move on from it.

The abuse of the grabbing arms is a huge redflag to me but he did make the attempt to seek help. To me that was a very mature thing to do. You will still see affects from it because a person doesn't change with a snap of a finger. He should continue the counseling though so it can continue to help.

On the other hand though you are not ready like you said above. You are 16 and you want to enjoy it. If these ex's keep talking to you and confusing you then its best to stay single for the time being but when you are with someone and a person can easily change your mind then you shouldn't be talking to them if you are trying to work on a relationship. Make a decision from here. You may lose out of a friendship but you just want to have friends anyway and enjoy being 16. You dont have to be tide down yet.

HelphelpPLZ
03-12-2005, 08:53 PM
i read the whole thing and it amazes me because i feel the same exact way towards things i know exactly how your feeling. I'm in the same sort of crap right now... hearing you talk is like hearing my ex girlfreind talk because i've been acting that odd way... being a great boyfriend, then geting mad at her for no reason. I've never touched her or even yelled at her.. i just said some mean things. Confusion is the worst feeling. you just really gotta think about things. i wrote in a journal a little bit to get my feelings out and analyze them, that seems to help me a little bit but i am still confused. i think you should take time off from both of them, don't talk to either of them, give it about a month. Then it will just come to you, you'll just know who you want. It sounds wierd but i've seen it happen many times. good luck with everything.