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annabunny1977
08-13-2010, 02:50 PM
Please, please could someone help me?

I have been in a relationship with my husband for 11 years and married for 5.

He has always had difficulties - he doesn't like watching me eat or drink, he doesn't want to sleep in the same room as me because of my breathing (not snoring!), he doesn't like my smell - hair or sweat against synthetic clothing, to name but a few. All these things make him really stressed and I have always tried to comply with his needs because I love him and I didn't want to see him suffer. It does actually hurt me to think that he can't bear these things about me but I've just dealt with it. He also suffers from very bad depression, which has been very difficult to live with but I've tried my best to support him. If I do something that he doesn't like, he can get very angry and abusive. When he's in this state, he belittles me, ridicules me and puts me down, pointing out and exaggerating all my bad points and telling me that I'll never succeed. He is always sorry afterwards but the hurt remains with me even though I do forgive him.

Three years ago, he gave up his job in anger. It was well paid but extremely stressful. After the initial shock, I told him to try and recover and that I would work to support us both until he managed to get on his feet again. I worked incredibly hard (he did pay for half of the household bills with his savings) so I only paid for my half of the bills, the food and things for the house and clothes etc. He spent two years trying to build up a hobby with the hope of turning professional but in March this year, it all collapsed and it is now not possible. In hindsight, it was not a good idea to put all his eggs in one basket and now he's 55 and finding it very difficult to get a job - it doesn't help that he dismisses most jobs for one reason or another and certainly doesn't want to work for the minimum wage. I believe beggars shouldn't be choosers and he should do something just to give himself some self-respect and get out of the house and bring some money in - his saving are almost gone now.

Last year, I felt it was the right time (biologically) to have a child. He seemed fairly happy in himself at the time I suggested trying for a baby. He has known I have wanted a child and he seemed to go along with me although I knew he had problems with the idea. He would always say, 'not while I'm working in this job' (his old job), or, 'I need to find a job first', which he hasn't made any significant effort to do (apart from pursue his hobby - unrealistic in my opinion). He suggested we get couples counselling so that he could address his worries about becoming a father. We went to 2 sessions but he didn't turn up to the 3rd because he says he's fed up of counselling (he had 10 years of psychotherapy when he was in work). I felt gutted because the counselling was supposed to be for us, not just for him.

At this point, I just want to say that I've never asked anything of him in this relationship. It really has all been about him and his difficulties. I felt that it was my time to have a child, which is something that is so very close to my heart - a calling in life.

It became clear at the beginning of the year that he was not going to give me a child and I fell into a deep depression. I couldn't get out of bed when I had days off work, I cried at work, I couldn't talk to him or look at him. I was devastated. I felt that the relationship was unequal - that I had really worked over the years to cope with him and his depression, his anger and his bizarre difficulties with noise and smells. I went to visit my parents for three weeks to get some space and then I was away for work too.

During this time (the past 2 years), he had been on antidepressants but he came off them suddenly, which sent him into a very strange place emotionally and physically.

On returning home from my parents house and he suddenly burst into a rage because of the smell of my clothes (my parents had washed them in a different washing liquid to his). I offered to change my clothes but he continues to shout at me and told me that I didn't understand depression. By this time, I'd had enough and I shouted back at him for the first time, telling him I couldn't cope anymore. His reaction was to lunge at me and he pushed me over.

I left for a month because I was frightened and then I went back to try and sort things out. I said that I loved him and would help him but that I need to live apart - close to each other but apart so I could live in peace and not worry about my smell (I don't smell bad by the way - just of soap, shampoo or deodorant), making a noise etc. But, he can't afford to support himself so I told him he really needed to get a job - pull out all the stops as it were.

He still dismissed almost every job that came up and I got depressed. I then found out that he'd taken £1200 from my savings and spent it. I became depressed again.

We did manage to get some fun back for a couple of days this July but then I found ual, loving and caring texts on his phone to another girl - he'd disguised her number under a male name. I rang the number and discovered that it was a young woman (21 but she looks about 15) who I had flagged up as a problem almost two years ago when she started trying to tell him her very personal and explicit problems. I had said at the time that I thought he should suggest she see a therapist and not to get involved - we had issues that we needed to deal with in our marriage - I didn't want his energy going to someone else - it just didn't feel right. It did turn out to be her and he's been secretly communicating with her for at least six months and ended up asking her to sleep with him only a couple of weeks before I found the messages. He said that she turned him down but until then had been very suggestive.

I was gutted. He hasn't wanted with me for years saying that he has problems in that department.

It took a while to get any truth out of him and so I looked at his address book - he password protects his computer and was carrying his phones around with him like a dog with a bone so his address book was a last resort.

I discovered that he had lots of email addresses that I did not know about and that he has been signing up to dating sites although he's only posted a profile - he hasn't responded to messages (at least on the sites I know about). I also discovered that between 2007 and mid-2010 he has spent £5000 talking to webcam girls. I am devastated. He doesn't want to work, he doesn't get up until the afternoon, he sits at his computer all day long, he's started drinking (he's an ex alcoholic), he has spent his energy with this young woman, he has watched me slave away and do all the house work and cooking. What do I do? I also found out that he's either bought her a phone or he tops up her phone with credit - I don't know the truth but there's something dodgy there.

Since confronting him about this girl, he has applied for more jobs and has started making an effort with the housework and does seem remorseful but I feel hurt, angry and I just don't know whether I have it in me anymore to continue with the relationship. I tried to leave yesterday but I felt guilty, there is still some love there but I'm not in love with him. Also, he can't afford to run a home on his own because he has no job. Also, how much of this is depression - should you leave someone who is ill?

I'm at my wits end. He also keeps saying that he believes he has no future and one day he will kill himself. I believe him.

I just don't know what to do.

Any thoughts would be so very welcome.

Thank you for reading.

smackie9
08-13-2010, 09:47 PM
Well if he has severe depression, why isn't he getting the help he needs? If he refuses, stop your suffering by seeking out a divorce lawyer.

MizDemi
08-13-2010, 10:58 PM
Annabunny1977,

My heart aches for you after reading your post. Your situation sounds like it is too much. I know you love your husband, but you can't handle this by yourself. It sounds like professional help is needed. Honestly, speaking I do not know how you are enduring it. Are you not losing a little bit of yourself each day? We women love so hard and sometimes we feel that we can change and/or help our men. I have my own situation, and I know how tough it is when you truly love someone. I am concerned about you and your happiness. My suggestion would be to try AGAIN to talk to your husband and let him know you cannot continue with the way things are. He must seek help, and you must be able to trust him. Some decisions definitely need to be made because you are suffering. I wish you the best of luck. Take Care and be blessed!!

annabunny1977
08-14-2010, 04:48 PM
Thank you Smackie9 and MizDemi for your comments. It's lovely to know that there are good people out there who are willing to share their experiences and offer advice - it means so much.
At the moment, he believes that he has tried all the help there is - Psychotherapy, Hypnotherapy, Cognitive Behavioural Therapy, Anti-Depressants. But I keep pointing out to him that the one thing he hasn't done is seen a well-qualified psychiatrist. Perhaps he can be diagnosed properly and given specific treatment. Anyway, I can suggest this to him until I'm blue in the face but he still seems to rule everything out.
I tried to leave two days ago. I was just going to go whilst he was asleep and leave him a long letter because I knew deep down that if I spoke to him then I wouldn't go. Stupidly, I did give him the letter in person, and, guess what...I'm still at home although I haven't said that I'm staying. He, however, seems to assume that I am even though he knows how I feel. I look at him and feel such sadness that it has come to this. I feel sad that this is the man that I loved so dearly, that I adored and now it's in ruins. I feel awful for leaving him high and dry financially but then I tell myself, the only person who brought this on was him through his choices. He blames me for not communicating with him from Christmas onwards but I'd sunk into a deep deep depression like I've never known before. I don't remember him doing anything to help me. I did resent him for not being willing to give me a child even though I know he has every right to not want one. I even considered not having children for him but realised at that point that the relationship was too unequal to give up such an important part of being human. I knew that he had issues with noises and smells and I worked so hard in order to save enough money to buy him a self-contained office (insulated, with running water and electricity) in the garden - a little sanctuary for him so that he could escape and have his peace and quiet and smell free time. He watched me go out to work every day (no day off) for months and then threw it back in my face - of course I was hurt and depressed and resented him. Is that an excuse to start a fling with someone else? What happened to helping his wife? I feel that he wanted to pip me to the post and sink into an even deeper depression than me. well, he made a damn good job of it! Drinking again, stopping his anti-depressants suddenly (a stupid thing to do - it sent him mad), , another woman. I'm devastated and i still care about him - I must be crazy!
I'm so sorry to have ranted - I don't know where all that came from - my fingers haven't stopped typing once!

smackie9
08-15-2010, 11:59 PM
Maybe it's time for you to seek out professional counseling for yourself. I think you are carrying too much guilt and there's no thinking straight.

I grew up with an alcoholic manic mother, so I know how you are being treated. It's like walking on eggshells, getting blamed for their problems, laying on the guilt. It is just some of the symptoms of depression. Never take his words to heart, you did nothing wrong. You can't force a person into treatment. My mom had to hit rock bottom first and the family had to cut all contact in order for her to seek help.

MizDemi
08-16-2010, 11:29 AM
Hi Annabunny1977,

I have to agree with Smackie9, perhaps it is time for you to FOCUS on yourself and seek some therapy so you will not completely lose your sanity. I know you love your husband, but what is the alternative for you? Continue to stay and lose a little bit more of yourself each day. What kind of life are you living? Where is your happiness and peace that you so deserve? I do not know you, but I want this for you, me and all women who are experiencing issues on our relationships.

I do not have a solution for your husband's financial situation, if you are to leave him, but it is time for you to worry about YOU.

MizDemi
08-16-2010, 11:50 AM
Hi Annabunny1977,

I have to agree with Smackie9, perhaps it is time for you to FOCUS on yourself and seek some therapy so you will not completely lose your sanity. I know you love your husband, but what is the alternative for you? Continue to stay and lose a little bit more of yourself each day. What kind of life are you living? Where is your happiness and peace that you so deserve? I do not know you, but I want this for you, me and all women who are experiencing issues on our relationships.

I do not have a solution for your husband's financial situation, if you are to leave him, but it is time for you to worry about YOU, since he’s adamant about not seeking out more therapy. Maybe some time apart will do you guys some good. Just maybe your husband will get it together, maybe not. I can only imagine how hard it is to leave him because at the same time you still love him. We, as women need to love ourselves enough to know that we deserve a relationship that consist of love, honesty, respect, loyalty, and support. I realize with marriages we are to take the good with the bad, but at what point is enough ENOUGH? Each person should be vested in their marriage and do whatever it takes to make it GOOD, but when you have one person doing and giving and the other is just taking, it becomes unbalanced and resentment sets in. Once again, I wish you the best of luck.

MizDemi
08-16-2010, 11:54 AM
** Not all of my response was posted. Here it is again......Sorry!


I have to agree with Smackie9, perhaps it is time for you to FOCUS on yourself and seek some therapy so you will not completely lose your sanity. I know you love your husband, but what is the alternative for you? Continue to stay and lose a little bit more of yourself each day. What kind of life are you living? Where is your happiness and peace that you so deserve? I do not know you, but I want this for you, me and all women who are experiencing issues on our relationships.

I do not have a solution for your husband's financial situation, if you are to leave him, but it is time for you to worry about YOU, since he’s adamant about not seeking out more therapy. Maybe some time apart will do you guys some good. Just maybe your husband will get it together, maybe not. I can only imagine how hard it is to leave him because at the same time you still love him. We, as women need to love ourselves enough to know that we deserve a relationship that consist of love, honesty, respect, loyalty, and support. I realize with marriages we are to take the good with the bad, but at what point is enough ENOUGH? Each person should be vested in their marriage and do whatever it takes to make it GOOD, but when you have one person doing and giving and the other is just taking, it becomes unbalanced and resentment sets in. Once again, I wish you the best of luck.

MizDemi
08-16-2010, 11:59 AM
** All of my response did not post. Here it is again......SORRY!


I have to agree with Smackie9, perhaps it is time for you to FOCUS on yourself and seek some therapy so you will not completely lose your sanity. I know you love your husband, but what is the alternative for you? Continue to stay and lose a little bit more of yourself each day. What kind of life are you living? Where is your happiness and peace that you so deserve? I do not know you, but I want this for you, me and all women who are experiencing issues on our relationships.

I do not have a solution for your husband's financial situation, if you are to leave him, but it is time for you to worry about YOU, since he’s adamant about not seeking out more therapy. Maybe some time apart will do you guys some good. Just maybe your husband will get it together, maybe not. I can only imagine how hard it is to leave him because at the same time you still love him. We, as women need to love ourselves enough to know that we deserve a relationship that consist of love, honesty, respect, loyalty, and support. I realize with marriages we are to take the good with the bad, but at what point is enough ENOUGH? Each person should be vested in their marriage and do whatever it takes to make it GOOD, but when you have one person doing and giving and the other is just taking, it becomes unbalanced and resentment sets in. Once again, I wish you the best of luck.

MizDemi
08-16-2010, 02:29 PM
Sorry guys.....I see now there was a page 2 and this is where my DUPLICATE responses were going to.

Rich
08-17-2010, 12:39 PM
This marraige has been very one sided, with it all being in his favor. God bless you for accepting and trying all of these years. As I was reading I got the impression that I thought that you lacked some self esteem and self confidence by accepting he actions and being so submissive.

Don't bring a child into this relationship! This is dysfunctional.

Your husband has issues and if he doesn't want to get help, then you need to leave him. Him flying into a rage and hitting you is a major red flag.

You went above and beyond in this marriage and trying to make it work. Time for you to make yourself happy and not live like you're walking on egg shells all of the time. Surprised that you don't have an ulcer or lost all of your hair living like that.

Go be happy. Most people that talk of committing suicide only do it as a manipulative measure to emotionally control. My ex-wife said that she would kill herself if I ever left. It's been 7 years and she's still alive.

Don't be mentally, physically and emotionally controlled or abused anymore. Go do your thing. He'll get himself a job and a place. He's a big boy. Go do your thing and have a happy, light filled life. So far you've had a lot of darkness.

trove99
08-23-2010, 05:57 PM
Maybe it's time for you to seek out professional counseling for yourself. I think you are carrying too much guilt and there's no thinking straight..divorcing is not the answer..your husband has a problem that only prayer can cure and made right if you believe in GOD.

Vega
08-25-2010, 01:15 AM
I admire your courage and all things that you did endure for the sake of love. But we only have one life to live, are you willing to spend it suffering for someone else that doesnt seem to care and appreciate your efforts anyway? It really helps to be selfish for your own sake sometimes. Yes you need to have a child, because that will somehow divert your attention from him and someone you could focus all your love on.

Do not live your entire life for him, all of us deserve to be happy. And no one can be more concerned of our own happiness but ourselves. You have to decide now.

annabunny1977
08-28-2010, 06:39 PM
I want to say a big thank you to everyone who has taken the time to read and respond to my thread.
I have finally left him. He continued to contact the girl with whom he was having some sort of affair (emotional or physical - I still don't know). I had asked him to stop contacting her in the strongest terms. In fact I told him that if I found out that he'd contacted her again then he would never see me again - that is how strongly I felt about it and I never normally lay down such laws - it's not in my nature. His bond with her was stronger than his sense of loyalty to me so I went - four days ago.
I have now started a new job and I'm trying to look to the future.
Your advice was invaluable and it really helped me to take care of myself.
With much love,
annabunny1977

smackie9
08-28-2010, 06:52 PM
Wow congrats on your new life. You proved to yourself that you are strong and deserve so much better. All the best to you and much happiness.

madgabxx
09-02-2010, 04:41 PM
I totally agree with the majority of the people here. it is definitely time to focus on yourself for once. you seem to have gone above and beyond to help support and care for your guy. i do think that if theres are severe issues however, that he really does need your help in overcoming them. perhaps both of you should go to therapy together to help him get over these issues. you should not just let them continue, but work each day on making things a little bit better. if hes the one for you, nothing is going to change that. i believe that you are meant to be if you keep going back and that nothing should come between you two, but you have to stand up for yourself as well.